Karlie Pearce-Stevenson murder: Accused refused bail in Maitland

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Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (left) and Khandalyce. ToddlerKhandalycePearce was killed not long after the death of her motherKarliePearce-Stevenson, whose body was dumped in the Belanglo State Forest in 2008, police believe.

Daniel James Holdom, 41,has appeared in court charged with the murder of MsPearce-Stevenson.

Holdom was charged overnight with killing Ms Pearce-Stevenson almost two years before her bones were found in the forest south of Sydney.

It isunderstood police were able to trace Holdom’s mobile phone as being in the Belanglo State Forest at the time Ms Pearce-Stevenson was killed.

NSW Homicide Squad commanderDetectiveSuperintendent Mick Willing said police believedKhandalycewas killed after her mother.

“But we are trying to establish the exact timing,” he told reporters on Thursday.

No charges have been laid over Khandalyce’s death.

Police will allege Ms Pearce-Stevenson was murdered between December14 and 15,2008.

“She sustained certain injuries to her body but I can’t go further intothoseinjuries as investigations are ongoing,” Superintendent Willing said.

It is understood that, while the mother and daughter both suffered violent deaths, their injuries were different,

Police have not revealed how Holdom and Ms Pearce-Stevenson knew each other.

However, it is understood Holdom had ties in the ACT.Ms Pearce-Stevenson was last seen in Charnwood, an outer suburb of Canberra, in 2008.

Holdom appeared via audio visual link from Cessnock Correctional Centre, wearing prison greens, on Thursday morning.

His Legal Aid solicitor, Peter Cleaves, told magistrate John Chicken that his client did not wish to appear in court in any form – not even by video link.

But Mr Chicken refused the request.

“Given the nature of the charge I think it’s appropriate that he appear by AVL,” he said.

“It’s not like he is being brought in and paraded.”

Holdom was formally refused bail, although Mr Cleaves did not apply for it on his behalf.

The matter was adjourned to Sydney’s Central Local Court, where Holdom has been ordered to appear via audio visual link, on November 12.

Make and take recipes from the Special Delivery cookbook by Annabel Crabb

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In Annabel Crabb’s accidental second career as the host of political cooking show Kitchen Cabinet, she negotiates her way into the homes of n politicians, bringing dessert – the internationally recognised culinary code for “I come in peace”.

Now, in Special Delivery, Crabb has teamed up with her best friend from childhood, fellow food tragic and Kitchen Cabinet recipe consultant Wendy Sharpe, to bring you recipes for those knockout desserts as well as tons more ideas for soups, salads, pastries, breads and other treats ideally suited to make and take to those you love. The following is a selection. Passionfruit curd

Makes about 700g

This recipe makes a fair amount of passionfruit curd. It will keep for up to two weeks in the fridge, and will find its way onto pancakes, tarts and croissants, in between sponge cakes and biscuits, or even into a pavlova with whipped cream. I took just such a passionfruit pavlova to former prime minister Kevin Rudd’s house once. He wasn’t much for sweets, as it turned out, but his daughter Jessica loved the curd so much I discreetly left her the jar. If you know someone who feels the same way, a jar of this would be the perfect gift for them.

110g castor sugar 4 whole eggs 2 egg yolks 125g unsalted butter, cubed pulp from 8 passionfruit, strained juice of ½ lemon

In a heatproof bowl set over a pan of simmering water, whisk the sugar, eggs and egg yolks together until pale.

Now whisk in the butter, cube by cube, and keep whisking over the heat: the butter will melt and the mixture will gradually thicken to a nice, custardy texture.

Finally, whisk in the passionfruit pulp and lemon juice and wait for the curd to thicken up again, then immediately transfer it to a bowl (if using straightaway) or sterilised jars (see page 32), covering the surface with plastic wrap so it doesn’t form a skin as it cools.

TO TRANSPORT: Spoon the curd into small screw-top jars, giving them a bonnet of muslin (cheesecloth) tied with string, if you like. Pop in your basket and away you go. Remind the recipient to keep their jar of curd in the fridge, and to eat it within two weeks. Pantry challenge gratin

Serves 4

In the weeks before my partner Jeremy and I moved back to from London, we enforced the “pantry challenge”, whereby every meal had to be cooked using something in the cupboard, so we could run our pantry reserves down to nix.

For no good reason I can think of, I had at some stage bought a five-kilo bag of quinoa, so that went into tuna patties and some sort of quinoa sushi, to which I’m afraid Wendy was repeatedly subjected. Anyway, there’s no quinoa at all in this recipe, but it does mostly use things you might have lurking in your cupboard.

Great for when friends drop in, as they say – or, more saliently, very good for whipping up and sticking in a basket for baking on-site in the home of another. This gratin is very rich, so we’ve sized it as a side dish. It goes well with many things; some Puy-style lentils or a crisp green salad is a good idea too.

1 leek, well washed and outer green leaves discarded, finely chopped olive oil, for frying a little white wine or water, if needed 175g  cooked cannellini beans 75g  creme fraiche or sour cream 2½ tablespoons cream 1 tablespoon dijon mustard 1 x 335g  jar white asparagus, drained 30g coarse fresh breadcrumbs 50g  finely grated parmesan 2 tablespoons finely chopped flat-leaf parsley

Preheat the oven to 160C. In a frying pan over low to medium heat, fry the leek in the smallest amount of oil, adding a little white wine or water if it starts to stick. When the leek has wilted a bit, take the pan off the heat and mix in the beans. Mix the two creams with the mustard until smooth.

Take a shallow baking dish about 20 x 15 cm and spread about a tablespoon of the cream mixture over the base. Lay the asparagus spears on top, spoon over the leek and bean mixture, then pour over the rest of the cream mixture.

Combine the breadcrumbs, parmesan and parsley, then sprinkle over the gratin. (Just by the by, I recommend having a secret stash of this gratin topping in the freezer, ready to sprinkle at a minute’s notice – it is also good on lasagne and other baked pasta dishes.) Bake your gratin for about 25 minutes, or until it is crispy, with bubbling cream underneath.

TO TRANSPORT: Par-bake the gratin for about 15 minutes and leave to cool prior to transporting, then finish cooking at your destination, just before serving. Blueberry and orange cake with lady grey syrup

In our little bit of the Adelaide Plains, shearing was one of those times of year – like harvest – where, all of a sudden, everyone was incredibly busy round the clock. Country kitchens sprang into action, producing hot meals, sandwiches, tins and tins of biscuits and wicker trays of cake. The recipients, uniform in their blue singlets, would dispatch the treats in between gulps of crazy-strong, overly sugared tea. I don’t think those sheds ever saw lady grey tea, or ricotta for that matter, but this cake pays tribute to the spirit of those countless tea breaks and the women who catered them. It even got the nod from Bill Heffernan (a celebrated bushie and tough nut) and minister/aviatrix Sussan Ley.

Makes 1 x 20 cm cake

250g ricotta 150g unsalted butter, softened 125g caster sugar finely grated zest of 3 oranges 3 eggs, separated 25g almond meal 100g plain flour, plus extra for sprinkling 2 teaspoons baking powder dash of milk, if needed 100g blueberries, fresh or frozenLady grey syrup

3 lady grey tea bags 170ml boiling water 165g caster sugar juice of ½ orange

Preheat the oven to 180C. Grease a 20cm spring-form or loose-based cake tin and line with a circle of baking paper. Tip the ricotta into a fine sieve set over a bowl to drain while you make a start on the cake.

Using an electric mixer, cream the butter and sugar until light and creamy, then beat in the zest, followed by the egg yolks, one at a time. Add the ricotta and whisk again – the mixture should be quite fluffy. Fold in the almond meal, then sift in the flour and baking powder, mixing to combine.

In another bowl, whisk the egg whites with a pinch of salt to medium peaks. Take a critical look at the consistency of your cake mixture: if it seems too stiff, to gently accommodate the whisked egg whites, stir in a dash of milk to loosen it. Now carefully fold in the egg whites.

Put your blueberries in a bowl and sprinkle with a scant teaspoon of flour (this will help to stop them from sinking to the bottom of the cake).

Pour half the batter into the prepared tin. Sprinkle over all except a few of the blueberries, avoiding the very edges so the finished cake will have solid walls. Add the rest of the batter and sprinkle with the remaining blueberries, using your finger to push them a little way into the batter.

Bake for 35-40 minutes. It can be tricky to tell when this cake is cooked in the middle. Because it’s so moist, a knife will come out clean three to four  minutes before it is actually cooked, so give it a little extra time in the oven after this, until it has a golden, slightly crisp crust.

Meanwhile, forge your strong three-bag brew in the boiling water. After 5 minutes, transfer the tea to a small saucepan with the sugar and orange juice. Bring to the boil, then let it bubble away for 5 minutes to make a thin syrup. Leave to cool until just warm, then transfer to a serving jug. Cut the cake into slices, then pour over the syrup when serving.

TO TRANSPORT: Carry your cake in an airtight container, with the jar of syrup riding shotgun.

Is the ATO treating independent contractors too harshly? IGT wants to find out

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Ali Noroozi, Inspector General of Taxation, has launched a review into the n Taxation Office’s handling of determining whether a worker is an employee or contractor. Photo: Louie DouvisThe Inspector-General of Taxation has launched a new review to ensure that the nation’s small businesses and independent contractors are not being unfairly targeted by the n Taxation Office.

Inspector-General of Taxation Ali Noroozi’s review will also examine the effectiveness of ATO actions to address so-called “phoenix activities” – businesses that collapse one day with a pile of debts then rise from the ashes with the same assets and customers to avoid their bills.

The Coalition government, when it took office after Tony Abbott’s election victory, promised that it would wind back the harsh treatment of contractors who it believed were being unfairly targeted under the former Labor government.

But lobby groups have argued that has not happened. In March, the ATO said it would step up targeting independent contractors suspected of dodging their tax obligations through a data matching program.

Mr Noroozi said there were concerns over the ATO’s approach when it comes to employers’ compliance with taxation and superannuation obligations. These concerns included “difficulty and uncertainty in determining” whether workers were actually employees or independent contractors.

“Unexpected multi-year liabilities may arise for employers as a result of an audit, or otherwise genuine employees may be left without an avenue to pursue their unpaid entitlements,” Mr Noroozi said.

This may have led to a recent increase in the number of n Business Number applications rejected by the ATO, he said. While the tax office knocked back 13,696 ARN applications in 2008-09, that number rose to 50,358 in 2013-14. The peak was 59,885 in 2012-13.

There was also a lack of ATO feedback to employees who reported potential employer non-compliance with their superannuation guarantee obligations. In the past five financial years, the ATO has raised a total of $2.97 billion in unpaid superannuation guarantee liabilities and collected a total of $1.59 billion. Compliance costs

“Further liabilities may remain undetected as the ATO relies more on employee notifications than proactive risk-based audits,” Mr Noroozi said. He also warned of “unnecessary compliance costs” for employers caused by the ATO through onerous information requests, director penalty notices that are issued in inappropriate circumstances, and an unwillingness to discuss issues and practical solutions.

Mr Noroozi said ATO data showed 846,500 employers collected half the total tax revenue of $419.26 billion in the 2013-14 financial year (which includes pay as you go withholding from salaries and the superannuation guarantee charge, or SCG).

Employers paid $79.19 billion into employees’ superannuation funds in the 2014-15 financial year.

The federal government had recently finished consultation on proposed legislation to “simplify and reduce the harshness that may result from imposition of interest and penalties with respect to SGC”.

It has also set up an an Inter-Agency Phoenix Forum to share intelligence and implement cross-agency strategies to reduce and deter businesses from phoenix activity.

“Employers play a vital role in the economy, including collecting taxes from their employees and paying their entitlements,” Mr Noroozi said.

“It is important to provide them with as much support as possible with these obligations so that their main focus continues to be on their core commercial goals.”

Young Conservationist of the Year Amelia Telford calls for the energy revolution ahead of Paris climate conference

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Amelia Telford, a Bundjalung woman from Tweed Heads, who is the Young Conservationist of the Year Award. Photo: James BrickwoodIn 2013, Amelia Telford approached then-Prime Minister Kevin Rudd while dressed up as Nemo to ask him “how he was going to protect my home, as a clown fish in the Great Barrier Reef”.

This year the 21-year-old has another message for the Prime Minister, though this time it’s for Malcolm Turnbull, and she’s talking about much more than the reef.

“People who have the power of decision making [must be] thinking about the impacts their decisions have on Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people and communities, specifically around approving new fossil fuel projects and how our communities are being devastated,” she said.

“We need to get the energy revolution started.”

A Bundjalung woman from Tweed Heads, Ms Telford was named the n Geographic Society’s Young Conservationist of the Year on Wednesday.

Ms Telford is a member of the n Youth Climate Coalition and founder and director of Seed, a network of young Aboriginal people fighting for climate justice.

With little more than a month until the United Nations Paris climate conference, Ms Telford and her colleagues have all eyes on the government.

“It’s really disappointing to see such a lack of ambition in what we are taking to Paris,” she said.

“It’s embarrassing for , because we are one of the sunniest and windiest countries in the world and we have the science and technology available to actually be powered by renewable energy, but there are other countries doing so much better than we are.”

Ms Telford has been involved with the n Youth Climate Coalition since she was in high school, a movement of more than 100,000 young people.

Her own brainchild, Seed, is a group she founded in July last year, after realising indigenous young people lacked a platform through which to voice their views on climate change.

“There is an amazing history of Aboriginal resistance in this country…we have been the first scientists, the first people to defend our climate and to protect our land, so there is so much we can learn in the activist space from our people.”

She said it was vital to create a dialogue for indigenous people because they are on the front line of the impacts of climate change.

“[Look at] sea level rises in the Torres Strait, drought and bushfires. There has been so much going on with generations of people standing up for our land, but there has not necessarily been a network to connect us across ,” she said.

As ‘s political landscape shifts, Ms Telford said she encourages the government to be as ambitious as they can when it comes to climate policy, but that “we haven’t seen anything yet.”

“The people of want to see action. So if that means starting the transition ourselves by getting solar panels on the roofs of high schools and hospitals, showing the government what true leadership looks like and leaving them with no choice but to follow, I guess that’s the path we will have to go down, and already have.”

Cessnock Jail inmate Daniel Holdom charged with ‘Angel’s’ murder

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Karlie Pearce-Stevenson murder accused in Maitland court | PHOTOS, UPDATED Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and daughter Khandalyce, whose bodies were found in different states, five years apart. Photo: NSW Police

The suitcase found with the body of a child at Wynarka. Photo: South Police.

Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and daughter Khandalyce, whose bodies were found in different states, five years apart. Photo: NSW Police

NSW and SA murder investigation press conference ,victims Karlie jade Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter Khandalyce Kiara Pearce missing since 2006.

The clothing found in the suitcase with the little girl’s bones in Wynarka Photo: South Police

Officers from the Task Force, Murray Mallee Local Service Area and State Tactical Response Group door-knocked the townships of Karoonda on August 4 in a bid to find more evidence.

Mounted police search terrain along the Karoonda Highway and Kulde Road, between Wynarka and Tailem Bend, on August 24.

A police officer looks at the map of Karoonda Highway and Kulde Road, between Wynarka and Tailem Bend, where mounted police officers searched on August 24.

The crime scene where a little girl’s remains were found in a suitcase at Wynarka, South . Photo: Murray Valley Standard

Officer in charge of the Major Crime Investigation Branch, Detective Superintendent Des Bray, announced that investigators believe the little girl could have died up to eight years ago – potentially making her aged 10-12 if she was alive today.

The jacket found with the body of the girl found in Wynarka.

Police believe a body found on the Karoonda Highway, near Wynarka, is a child aged between two and seven.

Emergency services and volunteers on the scene near Wynarka, South , on July 16, 2015.

The media setting up outside Maitland court house. PHOTO: Nick Bielby

Onlookers outside Maitland court house. PHOTO: Nick Bielby

Outside Maitland court house. PHOTO: Perry Duffin



Daniel James Holdom has appeared in court charged with the murder of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson. Bail wasformally refused. The case has been adjourned toCentral Local Court in Sydney on November 12.

Man charged with murder over death of #KarliePearceStevenson didn’t apply for bail but was formally refused bail @MaitlandMercury#angel

— Nick Bielby (@nickbielby) October 28, 2015Man charged over death of #KarliePearceStevenson will appear at #Maitland court by AVL despite asking not to appear @MaitlandMercury#angel

— Nick Bielby (@nickbielby) October 28, 2015LIVE on #Periscope: Police addressed the public following the charge of a man over allegedly murdering Karlie Pearc… https://t杭州龙凤论坛/eYTzjgkrAm

— NSW Police (@nswpolice) October 28, 20159.10AM

Media are yet to find out if the man charged with the alleged murder ofKarlie Pearce-Stevenson will appear in person in court, or by video link.

#Maitland court where man charged over death of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson is expected to appear @MaitlandMercurypic.twitter杭州龙凤论坛m/CdK3N5lig2

— Nick Bielby (@nickbielby) October 28, 2015Man charged with murder over death of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson overnight to face #Maitland court this morning @MaitlandMercury

— Nick Bielby (@nickbielby) October 28, 2015BACKGROUNDThe arrest comes five years after Ms Pearce-Stevenson’s remains were found in the Belanglo State Forrest, south of Sydney.

Her identity remained a mystery until earlier this month when police linked her DNA to that of a child’s body found dumped in a suitcase on the side of a highway at Wynarka in South in July this year.

Police last week made public Ms Pearce-Stevenson’s identity and the fact that the child in the suitcase was her daughter, Khandalyce.

Detectives have said they believe the pair were killed at different times and at different locations in December 2008.

Police suspect people involved in the murder of mother and daughter also hijacked the pair’s identities after killing them and raked in about $90,000 across multiple states and territories.

Earlier this monthSouth n Police released dashboard camera vision of the Karoonda Highway, near Wynarka, where thefaded suitcase was found.


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Top 10 Bond lairs featured in Spectre and other James Bond film classics

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Put the action back into your life with a visit to one of these swanky Bond lairs. 1) Das Central, Sölden, Austria

Not only did Bond director Sam Mendes stay in this luxurious alpine retreat during the filming of Spectre, but several scenes were shot in the property’s gourmet mountain restaurant, Ice Q. Located in a dramatic 65-kilometre-long valley lined with soaring 3000-metre peaks, the resort provides access to some of the finest skiing in Austria. See central-soelden杭州龙凤论坛m. 2) Peninsula, Hong Kong

Hong Kong’s oldest hotel made an appearance in the 1974 Bond classic The Man with the Golden Gun when Scaramanga’s mistress, Andrea Anders, was collected by one of its trademark ‘Peninsula Green’ Rolls-Royce Phantoms. Still the benchmark for Hong Kong luxury digs, this legendary property has seven restaurants, two bars and a lavish 1100-square-metre spa. See hongkong.peninsula杭州龙凤论坛m. 3) Four Seasons Canary Wharf, London

Stay at the Four Seasons Canary Wharf and you’ll have access to the same 20-metre rooftop infinity pool that Daniel Craig swam in during Skyfall. The luxury 10-storey property offers panoramic views of the Thames from its riverside location in Canary Wharf plus convenient access to London’s hip and happening East End. See fourseasons杭州龙凤论坛m/canarywharf/4) Stoke Park, Buckinghamshire, UK

The normally low-risk game of golf took on a new edge when Sean Connery played Auric Goldfinger and his deadly bowler hat-throwing caddy Oddjob. The match took place on the 27-hole championship golf course at Stoke Park, a five-star hotel and country club near Windsor, England. Don’t worry if you’re not a golfer, the property also boasts three restaurants, 13 tennis courts and a decadent spa. See stokepark杭州龙凤论坛m. 5) Spitbank Fort, The Solent, UK

A truly Bond-worthy lair, this island fort near Portsmouth was built to protect the harbour from attack from Napoleon III. Now transformed into a luxury hotel, the property has everything an aspiring secret agent could desire, including nine bedrooms, a hot tub, a wine cave and a rooftop fire pit. After being transferred to the island by speed boat, guests are welcomed with a glass of champagne and enjoy sumptuous meals in the fort’s a la carte restaurant. See amazingvenues杭州龙凤论坛.uk/venue/spitbank-fort. 6) One&Only Ocean Club, Bahamas

This exclusive ocean-front resort featured heavily in the 2006 movie Casino Royale. Bond relieves villain Alex Dimitrios of an Aston Martin during a game of poker in the hotel’s library and then – just to really rub it in – lures his girlfriend, Solange, back to his villa. Once a private estate, this elegant colonial retreat features an 18-hole golf course, a Balinese-style spa and cuisine overseen by Michelin-starred chef Jean-Georges Vongerichten. See oceanclub.oneandonlyresorts杭州龙凤论坛m. 7) Hotel Cipriani, Venice, Italy

Precisely four minutes by private launch from St Mark’s Square, this stunning luxury hotel enjoys unrivalled views of the lagoon and Doge’s Palace from its location on the tip of Giudecca Island. Bond fans will recognise it as the place Daniel Craig moored his yacht before embarking on a high-speed chase through the city in Casino Royale. You may prefer to relax with a cocktail around the hotel’s Olympic-sized swimming pool – it’s the only one in Venice. See belmond杭州龙凤论坛m/hotel-cipriani-venice. 8) The Fleming Villa, Jamaica

Ian Fleming wrote all the James Bond novels at this idyllic Jamaican hideaway. Now part of the exclusive GoldenEye resort, the three-bedroom villa has its own private beach, pool and gardens plus two self-contained cottages. Ideal for budding novelists, it comes with a dedicated butler, housekeeper and cook, so there’s no excuse for not finishing that best-seller. See theflemingvilla杭州龙凤论坛m. 9) Taj Lake Palace, Udaipur, India

This spectacular resort, located on an island in Lake Pichola, doubled as Octopussy’s impenetrable ‘floating palace’ in the eponymous 1983 Bond movie starring Roger Moore. While Moore had to swim over disguised as a crocodile, access nowadays is a little easier with a dedicated luxury transfer. Originally built as an 18th-century pleasure palace for Maharana Jagat Singh II, this decadent retreat is now one of India’s finest hotels – a lavish montage of marble columns, domed turrets and delicate fretwork screens. See tajhotels杭州龙凤论坛m. 10) Fontainebleau, Miami Beach, USA

Designed by acclaimed architect Morris Lapidus, this iconic 1950s beachfront resort played a starring role in the 1963 classic Goldfinger. Not only does Bond receive a poolside massage in the film’s opening scene, but it’s where Jill Masterton meets an expensive demise after being painted entirely in gold by Goldfinger’s henchman Oddjob. Today, the nine-hectare resort remains one of Miami’s finest, with four signature restaurants, a two-storey spa and direct access to a pristine section of beach. See fontainebleau杭州龙凤论坛m.

need2know: ASX poised to rally

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Local shares are set to open higher, following Wall Street which was lifted by gains in financial stocks and Apple.

What you need2know

SPI futures up 37pts to 5343

AUD at 70.96 US cents, 85.88 Japanese yen, 65.01 Euro cents and 46.49 British pence

On Wall St, late, S&P 500 +0.8%, Dow +1%, Nasdaq 0.9%

In Europe, Stoxx 50 +1.2%, FTSE +1.1%, CAC +0.9%, DAX +1.3%

Spot gold down $US9.88 or 0.9pc to $US1157.00/ounce

Brent crude up $US2.10 or 4.5% to $US48.91/barrel

Iron ore slumps 3% to $US49.95/ tonne

What’s on today

HIA new home sales, trade price index, Newcrest AGM in Melbourne; New Zealand rate decision.

Stocks in focus

Morgan Stanley has an “overweight” on Fortescue Metals Group after a site tour. “If we assume 90 per cent price realisation, FMG C1 cash costs and sustaining capex maintained at $US15 a tonne and $US2 a tonne from FY16 to FY20, respectively, with our base-case currency assumptions, we estimate the required headline iron ore price for FMG to repay all its debt when it falls due to be about $US47 a dry metric tonne.This implies capacity for both debt reduction and capital returns at current prices.”

Health and aged-care stocks: RSL Care and RDNS will merge into a single organisation to respond to changes in the market through scale and joint capabilities. Together the two organisations will become one of ‘s largest not-for-profit providers. In April this year, Generation Healthcare REIT (GHC) bought a portfolio of aged care properties, including three from RSL Care. The sector includes companies such as Japara, Regis and Estia.

Deutsche Bank has a “hold” on Sonic Healthcare and a target price at $20.


The Aussie extended its slide overnight after the US Federal Reserve signalled it may lift rates at its next meeting in December. The dollar had already been under pressure from soft inflation data, which lifted expectations the RBA will cut rates again, as early as next week.

Even with a slower pace of recent job gains, “labour market indicators, on balance, show that underutilisation of labour resources has diminished since early this year,” the Federal Open Market Committee said in a statement Wednesday following a two-day meeting in Washington.

The Fed removed a line from September’s statement saying that global economic and financial developments “may restrain economic activity somewhat,” saying Wednesday only that the central bank is monitoring the international situation. The committee also added a reference to the possibility of increasing the rate “at its next meeting” based on “realised and expected” progress in reaching goals.

“The Fed is clearly signalling that the default plan is to raise rates in December,” said Dean Maki, chief economist at Point72 Asset Management in Stamford, Connecticut. “It signals that something needs to prevent them from hiking in December rather than that something needs to happen for them to raise.”


Iron ore sank back below $US50 a metric ton on speculation that a global glut will persist as China’s leading mills group said local steel demand was contracting at an unprecedented pace and supplies from the biggest miners were expected to climb. Ore with 62 per cent content delivered to Qingdao fell 3 per cent to $US49.95 a dry ton on Wednesday, the lowest price since July 9, according to Metal Bulletin Ltd.

‘s biggest iron ore miners should expect a 20 per cent fall in Chinese steel consumption over the next 15 years, according to the country’s official forecaster.

Benchmark aluminium on the London Metal Exchange slumped to $US1460 a tonne in early trade, its lowest since June 2009. It later recovered to close at $US1484 for a slender 0.5 per cent gain on Tuesday’s close. “Aluminium’s fundamentals are extremely challenging, we haven’t seen anyone really seriously cutting back production,” Macquarie analyst Vivienne Lloyd said. “Problem is they are all waiting for someone else to do the decent thing.”

United States

US stocks are higher in late trade on Wednesday, after the Federal Reserve kept interest rates unchanged but left the door open to tightening monetary policy at its next meeting in December.  S&P financials, which benefit from higher rates, added to gains following the statement and were last up 2 per cent, on track for their best day in two weeks.

Gains in Apple’s shares, up 3.5 per cent at $US118.62, helped to support indexes, a day after its reported stronger-than-expected results.

Rite-Aid retreated after surging 43 per cent yesterday before an official announcement that Walgreen Boots Alliance will buy the drugstore chain.

Activist investor Carl Icahn disclosed a “large stake” in American International Group and urged the company to spin off its life and mortgage insurance units into public companies to shed the US government’s “too-big-to-fail” tag.


European stocks rose, buoyed by a rebound in energy companies, as investors awaited the outcome of a Federal Reserve meeting for indications of the trajectory of US borrowing costs. The Stoxx Europe 600 Index added 1.1 per cent at 4.33pm in London. All 19 industry groups rose, with oil-and-gas companies leading gains and snapping a three-day decline. The benchmark index has climbed 8.1 per cent in October, rebounding from a quarterly rout and set for its best monthly gain since 2009.

BP and Royal Dutch Shell added 1.4 per cent or more as oil rose from a two-month low after industry data showed declines in US fuel inventories and crude stockpiles at the nation’s biggest storage hub. Saipem rallied 11 per cent after Eni agreed to sell a stake in the company to Fondo Strategico Italiano. Eni rose 2.2 per cent.

Deutsche Bank said it plans to suspend dividends for two years as co-chief executive John Cryan seeks to improve returns. The bank plans to recommend the payment of common-share dividends commencing from fiscal year 2017. The bank targets a common equity Tier 1 ratio of at least 12.5 per cent from the end of 2018.

What happened yesterday

The benchmark S&P/ASX 200 dropped 0.2 per cent to close at 5335.2 while the broader All Ordinaries index slipped 0.2 per cent to 5374.4.

The banks, overall, weighed heavily on the market with ANZ down 0.6 per cent to $28.75 and Commonwealth Bank down 0.1 per cent to $77.64. Westpac lifted 0.5 per cent to $31.93, but NAB sank 2.1 per cent to $31.72 despite lifting its full-year cash profit to $5.84 billion and announcing details of the upcoming float of Clydesdale Bank in the UK and the sale of 80 per cent of its life insurance business to Nippon Life of Japan.

5th AACTA Awards: the full list of nominees

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Judy Davis, Sarah Snook and Kate Winslet in The Dressmaker. Ten nominations … Mad Max: Fury Road.

Joel Jackson in Peter Allen: Not The Boy Next Door.

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The nominations for the fifth n Academy of Cinema and Television Arts Awards are dominated in film by The Dressmaker (with 12 nods), Mad Max: Fury Road (with 11) and Last Cab To Darwin (with eight).

In television, the Seven network’s Peter Allen: Not The Boy Next Door leads the way (with 10 nods) from Foxtel Showcase’s Deadline Gallipoli and the ABC’s The Secret River (with eight) and Redfern Now (with seven).

The full list of nominations is … FEATURE FILM

Best Film Presented By Presto The Dressmaker – Sue MaslinHolding The Man – Kylie Du FresneLast Cab To Darwin – Greg Duffy, Lisa Duff, Jeremy SimsMad Max: Fury Road – Doug Mitchell, Pj Voeten, George MillerPaper Planes – Robert Connolly, Maggie Miles, Liz Kearne

Best Direction Presented By Hyundai GenesisThe Dressmaker – Jocelyn MoorhouseHolding The Man – Neil ArmfieldLast Cab To Darwin – Jeremy SimsMad Max: Fury Road – George Miller

Best Original ScreenplayCut Snake – Blake AyshfordKill Me Three Times – James McFarlandMad Max: Fury Road – George Miller, Brendan McCarthy, Nico LathourisPaper Planes – Robert Connolly, Steve Worland

Best Adapted ScreenplayHolding The Man – Tommy MurphyLast Cab To Darwin – Reg Cribb, Jeremy SimsRuben Guthrie – Brendan Cowell

Best CinematographyThe Dressmaker – Donald M. McAlpine ACS, ASCLast Cab To Darwin – Steve Arnold ACSMad Max: Fury Road – John Seale ASC, ACSOddball – Damian Wyvill ACS

Best EditingCut Snake – Andy CannyThe Dressmaker – Jill Bilcock ACE, ASEHolding The Man – Dany Cooper ASEMad Max: Fury Road – Margaret Sixel

Best SoundThe Dressmaker – Andrew Ramage, Glenn Newnham, Chris Goodes Cas, David Williams, Mario Vaccaro, Alex FrancisMad Max: Fury Road – Ben Osmo, David White, Chris Jenkins, Gregg Rudloff, Wayne Pashley, Mark ManginiPaper Planes – Chris Goodes CAS, James Ashton, Emma Bortignon, Trevor HopePartisan – Robert Mackenzie, Dane Cody

Best Original Music ScoreThe Dressmaker – David HirschfelderMad Max: Fury Road – Tom Holkenborg aka Junkie XLPaper Planes – Nigel WestlakePartisan – Daniel Lopatin

Best Production DesignCut Snake – Jo FordThe Dressmaker – Roger FordMad Max: Fury Road – Colin GibsonPartisan – Steven Jones-Evans APDG, Sarah Cyngler

Best Costume DesignCut Snake – Cappi IrelandThe Dressmaker – Marion Boyce, Margot WilsonMad Max: Fury Road – Jenny BeavanPartisan – Maria Pattison, Sarah Cyngler

Best Lead ActorPatrick Brammall – Ruben GuthrieMichael Caton – Last Cab To DarwinRyan Corr – Holding The ManSullivan Stapleton – Cut Snake

Best Lead ActressRobyn Butler – Now Add HoneyNingali Lawford-Wolf – Last Cab To DarwinCharlize Theron – Mad Max: Fury RoadKate Winslet – The Dressmaker

Best Supporting ActorMark Coles Smith – Last Cab To DarwinAlex Dimitriades – Ruben GuthrieAnthony LaPaglia – Holding The ManHugo Weaving – The Dressmaker

Best Supporting ActressJudy Davis – The DressmakerEmma Hamilton – Last Cab To DarwinDeborah Mailman – Paper PlanesSarah Snook – The Dressmaker

Best Visual Effects Or AnimationAvengers: Age Of Ultron – Christopher Townsend, Ryan Stafford, Paul Butterworth, Matt EstelaMad Max: Fury Road – Andrew Jackson, Holly Radcliffe, Dan Oliver, Andy Williams, Tom Wood, Fiona CrawfordPan – Chas Jarrett, Dan Barrow, Mark Holt, Marc Varisco, Alana NewellTed 2 – Glenn Melenhorst, Ineke MajoorTELEVISION

Best Children’s TV SeriesLittle Lunch – Robyn Butler, Wayne Hope (ABC3)The New Adventures Of Figaro Pho – Daniel Fill, Frank Verheggen, Luke Jurevicius (ABC3)Nowhere Boys Series 2 – Beth Frey (ABC3)Ready For This – Darren Dale, Miranda Dear, Joanna Werner (ABC3)

Best TV Comedy SeriesDanger 5 Series 2 – Kate Croser, Dario Russo (SBS)Sammy J & Randy In Ricketts Lane – Donna Andrews, Stu Connolly – ABCShaun Micallef’s Mad As Hell – Shaun Micallef, Peter Beck – ABCUtopia – Michael Hirsh, Santo Cilauro, Tom Gleisner, Rob Sitch – ABC

Best Light Entertainment TV SeriesDirty Laundry Live – Tarni James, Peter Lawler, Rachel Millar, Richard Kelly (ABC)Judith Lucy Is All Woman – Anna Bateman, Judith Lucy (ABC)Julia Zemiro’s Home Delivery – Damian Davis, Polly Connolly, Nick Murray (ABC)The Weekly With Charlie Pickering – Charlie Pickering, Kevin Whyte, Chris Walker, Frank Bruzzese (ABC)

Best Reality TV SeriesMasterchef – Margaret Bashfield, Marty Benson, Tim Toni, Rob Wallace (Network Ten)My Kitchen Rules 6 – Rikkie Proost, Evan Wilkes, Matt Apps (Seven Network)Real Housewives Of Melbourne Season 2 – Kylie Washington, Lisa Potasz, Virginia Hodgson (Foxtel Arena)The Voice – Richard Rietveld (Nine Network)The X Factor – Digby Mitchell (Seven Network)

Best TV Drama SeriesGlitch – Tony Ayres, Louise Fox, Ewan Burnett (ABC)Love Child Series 2 – Tom Hoffie (Nine Network)Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries Series 3 – Fiona Eagger, Deb Cox (ABC)Wentworth Series 3 – Jo Porter, Amanda Crittenden (Foxtel Soho)

Best Telefeature Or Mini SeriesBanished – Sita Williams, Emile Sherman, Iain Canning, Jamie Laurenson, Brett Popplewell (Foxtel BBC First)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door – Kerrie Mainwaring, Rory Callaghan (Seven Network)The Principal – Ian Collie (SBS)The Secret River – Stephen Luby (ABC)

Best Direction In A TV Drama Or ComedyBanished Episode 7 – Jeffrey Walker (Foxtel BBC First)Deadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Michael Rymer (Foxtel Showcase)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 2 – Shawn Seet (Seven Network)The Principal Episode 1 – Kriv Stenders (SBS)

Best Direction In A TV Light Entertainment Or Reality SeriesHipsters Episode 1 – What Is A Hipster? – Seth Larney (SBS2)Judith Lucy Is All Woman Episode 2 – Hanky Panky – Anna Bateman (ABC)Julia Zemiro’s Home Delivery Episode 7- Waleed Aly – Damian Davis (ABC)Kitchen Cabinet Episode 7 – Clive Palmer – Stamatia Maroupas (ABC)

Best Screenplay In TVDeadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Jacquelin Perske, Shaun Grant (Foxtel Showcase)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 2 – Michael Miller (Seven Network)The Principal Episode 1 – Kristen Dunphy (SBS)Utopia Episode 1 – A Fresh Start – Santo Cilauro, Tom Gleisner, Rob Sitch (ABC)

Best Lead Actor In A TV DramaWayne Blair – Redfern Now – Promise Me (ABC)Joel Jackson – Deadline Gallipoli (Foxtel Showcase)Joel Jackson – Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door (Seven Network)Oliver Jackson-Cohen – The Secret River (ABC)

Best Lead Actress In A TV DramaDeborah Mailman – Redfern Now – Promise Me (ABC)Pamela Rabe – Wentworth Series 3 (Foxtel Soho)Peta Sergeant – House Of Hancock (Nine Network)Sarah Snook – The Secret River (ABC)

Best Guest Or Supporting Actor In A TV DramaJohn Bach – Gallipoli Episode 6 – If Only … (Nine Network)Ky Baldwin – Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 (Seven Network)Lachy Hulme – The Secret River Part 1 (ABC)Rahel Romahn – The Principal Episode 2 (SBS)

Best Guest Or Supporting Actress In A TV DramaHarriet Dyer – Love Child Series 2 Episode 3 (Nine Network)Rarriwuy Hick – Redfern Now – Promise Me (ABC)Hannah Monson – Glitch Episode 4 (ABC)Sigrid Thornton – Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 (Seven Network)

Best Performance In A TV ComedyNathan Lovejoy – Sammy J & Randy In Ricketts Lane (ABC)Celia Pacquola – Utopia (ABC)Randy – Sammy J & Randy In Ricketts Lane (ABC)Emily Taheny – Shaun Micallef’s Mad As Hell (ABC)

Best Cinematography In TVBanished Episode 6 – Martin Mcgrath ACS (Foxtel BBC First)Deadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Geoffrey Hall ACS (Foxtel Showcase)Redfern Now – Promise Me – Mark Wareham ACS (ABC)The Secret River Part 1 – Bruce Young (ABC)

Best Editing In TVDeadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Martin Connor, Dany Cooper ASE (Foxtel Showcase)Little Lunch Episode 5 – The Top Of The Fireman’s Pole – Annabelle Johnson (ABC3)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 – Deborah Peart ASE (Seven Network)Redfern Now – Promise Me – Nicholas Holmes ASE (ABC)

Best Sound In TVBanished Episode 6 – Paul Brincat, Gary Desmond, Dan Johnson (Foxtel BBC First)Deadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Des Kenneally, Robert Mackenzie (Foxtel Showcase))Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 – Grant Shepherd, Ashley Irwin, Ian Neilson, Ben Anderson, Nigel Croydon, Robert Sullivan (Seven Network)Redfern Now – Promise Me – Rainier Davenport, Ian McLoughlin CAS, Wes Chew, Tom Herdman, Annie Breslin, Blair Slater (ABC)

Best Original Music Score In TVDeadline Gallipoli Part 1 – David Bridie (Foxtel Showcase)Glitch Episode 4 – Cornel Wilczek (ABC)Redfern Now – Promise Me – Antony Partos (ABC)The Secret River Part 1 – Burkhard Dallwitz (ABC)

Best Production Design In TVBanished Episode 6 – Claire Kenny (Foxtel BBC First)Deadline Gallipoli Part 1 – Pete Baxter (Foxtel Showcase)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 – Tim Ferrier (Seven Network)The Secret River Part 1 – Herbert Pinter (ABC)

Best Costume Design In TVHouse Of Hancock Part 1 – Shareen Beringer (Nine Network)Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries Series 3, Episode 1 – Death Defying Feats – Marion Boyce (ABC)Peter Allen – Not The Boy Next Door Episode 1 – Jenny Miles (Seven Network)The Secret River Part 1 – Edie Kurzer (ABC)SHORT FILM

Best Short AnimationErnie Biscuit – Adam ElliotThe Meek – Laura DimaIo, Joe BrummThe Orchestra – Mikey Hill, Melanie BruntThe Story Of Percival Pilts – John Lewis, Janette Goodey

Best Short Fiction FilmFlat Daddy – Annie Kinnane, Matt HolcombKarroyul – Kelrick Martin, Jaclyn Hewer, Melissa KellyNulla Nulla – Dylan River, Tanith Glynn-MaloneyReg Makes Contact – Corrie Chen, Jiao Chen, Raquelle DavidDOCUMENTARY

Best Feature Length DocumentaryGayby Baby – Charlotte MarsOnly The Dead – Patrick Mcdonald, Michael WareSherpa – Bridget Ikin, John SmithsonThat Sugar Film – Nick Batzias, Damon GameauWomen He’s Undressed – Damien Parer, Gillian Armstrong

Best Documentary Television Program Presented By Foxtel MoviesBetween A Frock And A Hard Place – Jo-anne Mcgowan (ABC)The Cambodian Space Project – Not Easy Rock’n’roll – Richard Kuipers (ABC)The Killing Season – Deborah Masters, Sarah Ferguson (ABC)Prison Songs – Harry Bardwell, Kelrick Martin (SBS)

Best Direction In A DocumentaryThe Killing Season Episode 2 – Great Moral Challenge (2009-2010) – Deborah Masters (ABC)Only The Dead – Bill Guttentag, Michael WarePrison Songs – Kelrick Martin (SBS)Uranium – Twisting The Dragon’s Tail Episode 1 – The Rock That Became A Bomb – Wain Fimeri, Steve Westh (SBS)

Best Cinematography In A DocumentaryThe Killing Season Episode 2 – Great Moral Challenge (2009-2010) – Louie Eroglu ACS (ABC)Life On The Reef Episode 1 – Nick Robinson, Luke Peterson, Jon Shaw (ABC)Prison Songs – Torstein Dyrting ACS (SBS)Sherpa – Renan Ozturk, Hugh Miller, Ken Sauls

Best Editing In A DocumentaryThe Cambodian Space Project – Not Easy Rock’n’roll – Andrea Lang ASE (ABC)The Killing Season Episode 2 – Great Moral Challenge (2009-2010) – Lile Judickas (ABC)Only The Dead – Jane MoranSherpa – Christian Gazal

Best Sound In A DocumentaryThe Cambodian Space Project – Not Easy Rock’n’roll – Keith Thomas (ABC)Life On The Reef Episode 1 – Caspar Mazzotti, Craig Beckett, Dan Miau, Terry Meehan (ABC)Only The Dead – Steve Burgess, Leah Katz, Andy Wright, Chris Goodes CASPrison Songs – Glenn Martin, Kim Lord (SBS)

Best Original Music Score In A DocumentaryOnly The Dead – Michael YezerksiPrison Songs – Shellie Morris, Casey Bennetto, Tim Cole (SBS)Sherpa – Antony PartosUranium – Twisting The Dragon’s Tail Episode 1 – The Rock That Became A Bomb – Dale Cornelius (SBS)

Herald Breakfast – October 29 2015

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Morning Shot: Herald photographer Darren Pateman caught these shots on Newcastle harbour on Wednesday.Beachwatch:Once again it will be partly cloudy with onshore winds so a very similar day to Wednesdayif you’re heading beachside.The wind will be east to south-east with the swell from the south-east around 1.5 to twometres.Wave conditions will be a bit lumpy but a few breaks will be surfable.

Weather: Partly cloudy in Newcastle (22 degrees), Maitland (25 degrees) and Scone (26 degrees).

Traffic: No major incidents reported on Hunter roads.

Trains: Good service on the Newcastle and Hunter lines.

Morning Shot: Herald photographer Darren Pateman caught these shots on Newcastle harbour on Wednesday.

Morning Shot: Herald photographer Darren Pateman caught these shots on Newcastle harbour on Wednesday.

Murder arrest in cold case of Elizabeth Dixon’s murder:EXCLUSIVESHE was a Northern Irish lass who fell in love with and stayed, living a simple existence as a squash-loving secretary with a happy-go-lucky disposition and a close circle of friends.

Man charged in Cessnock with murder of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson:The man, a 41-year-old inmate at Cessnock jail,was being interviewed by detectives at Cessnock police station on Wednesday night and was then charged with her alleged murder.

Sacked GM flags legal action: POLLMr Gouldthorp was dumped from his $350,000-a-year job on Tuesday night just two years into a five-year contract, but he confirmed on Wednesday that he had alerted the lawyers and would be pursuing further action.

We pay for council’s puerile politicsCOMMENT WELL, those councillors sure know how to pull off a decent murder in the dead of night.

‘Gentleman’s agreement’ for Hunter River fishers:FRUSTRATION with the lack of federal government assistance has forced Hunter River fishermen to try negotiate their own agreement to ensure each operator receives an income.

Show day would cost $500,000: chamber: HUNTER Business Chamber has upped the ante in its war with Newcastle council over plans for a public holiday to coincide with next year’s Newcastle Show.

Please don’t let that be what I think it isTOPICSAll we can say is spare a thought for poor Jennifer Govan from Maryville who purchased this steaming hot bird from Waratah Coles on Tuesday with the obvious and fairly reasonable intention of eating it.

Closer ties for Maitland, Newcastle:HUNTER Hitmen captain Matt Trappel has called for more representative cricket to be played between Newcastle and Maitland after the success of Sunday’s maiden Regional Bash match.

The puzzling prevalence of ‘back burner’ relationships

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Social media means access.”People use computers to keep romantic prospects waiting in the wings.”

It’s an uncomfortable truth that is bound to touch a nerve in even the most committed among us.

A male friend recently expressed his concern about his girlfriend’s contact with an ex. Well, multiple exes actually.

She was adamant it was innocent – they were mates. He was convinced they were back burners – that she was keeping the door ajar for a future fling, should their relationship falter.

Whether his fears are warranted or not, it is not uncommon to have a “back burner” relationship.

They are not the domain of singles either, according to recent research.

A back burner, to be clear, is not someone who we think is cute or who comes to mind occasionally.

Rather, they are, the study explains, “a person to whom one is not presently committed, and with whom one maintains some degree of communication, in order to keep or establish the possibility of future romantic and/or sexual involvement”.

We will always, in a long-term relationship, find others attractive, but I choose not to chase the fire.

It is not worth the confusion or potential chaos for a bit of an ego boost.

I’m not sure how can we know the true potential of anything if we are not totally committed to it and if I’m exploring other options, I figure I’m not into someone enough to be with them in the first place.

But this is not how many people feel.

Keeping our options open is tempting, especially when we’re not fully invested, we hit a rough patch in our relationship, fear rejection or are afraid to fall too deeply. It can simply be that we think there might be a better offer out there, we want to have our cake and eat it too or we just like the attention.

Some of these reasons might explain why the researchers made an unusual finding.

Theoretically, if we’re madly in love, we shut down back burners, right? Not necessarily.

There is, they found, “no relationship found between back burners and commitment or investment”.

The 374 participants in the study answered questions about how many back burners they had, how they interacted, whether they were in a relationship and how in love they were, if they had a partner.

Mostly, those with back burners communicated via texts (45 per cent) and Facebook (37 per cent).

Some spoke over the phone, emailed or were in contact via Skype.

“I think back burner relationships are something we’ve always had – the little black book has been around for a long time – they are just more accessible now” says Val Holden, of Relationships , adding, “it’s technology that’s brought it to the place it is.”

It’s easy to “like” something and relatively harmless – or at the very least ambiguous – to check in with people on Facebook. It keeps our options open without too much risk.

“There’s a big difference between a ‘like’ or chat on Facebook and dinner/drinks,” says Holden, who notes that “likes” or the odd message are not always signs of a ‘back burner’.

“It may be quite innocent,” she says, “someone might read more into a ‘like’ than is meant … things can be misinterpreted.”

This is why there are no hard and fast rules about what is or isn’t OK and what does and does not cross a line.

It’s murky territory – and, of course, platonic friendships do exist between the sexes and even between exes. The researchers are looking to refine their understanding of what constitutes a back burner more. If we’re in touch with someone once in a blue moon, is that still a back burner? What if our back burner ends up in a relationship etcetera?

Holden says it is about getting to know each other and communicating to figure out what we’re both OK with.

“Every relationship and every person is different,” Holden says. “It’s something you need to talk about. What’s appropriate within your relationship and what’s acceptable to your relationship.”

This assumes we are being honest with our partners. And, of equal importance, it is about getting to know and be honest with ourselves too, so that the truths of what we want, who we’re with and are in a relationship with are ones we “like”. Otherwise, it’s probably worth putting it on the back burner.

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